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Aerial View, Kentmere Avenue


Aerial View, Kentmere Avenue
Description:
17th September 1962 North Parkway cuts across the top left corner of this view. Our Lady of Good Counsel Church is visible towards the left edge where North Parkway meets Kentmere Avenue. Kentmere Avenue runs to the right edge in front of Beechwood School. Foxwood Comprehensive School can be seen in the foreground on the left edge, this is now East Leeds Family Learning Centre.

User Comments:

Name:
steve morrell

Comment:
Here, are more memories of 1962, when I was in my second year at Foxwood Comprehensive. Notice the prefab houses (white with dark roofs - centre) and the broad dual-carriageway of South Parkway (bottom-right) before further in-building of housing. On the right is Black's shops. Originally, these shops were small, flat-topped, temporary, lock-up shops - just a small shop with a single shop-window and dooor to the right. There were some at the bottom of The Rein (just three shops , a grocer, Simpson's fish n chips and Jeff the hairdresser. Then large brick council shops were built in the late fifties to serve the new community (who had bussed it down to Leeds market on Saturday or went to Dib Lane shops). Some were built on Boggart Hill Drive, by St Richard's church, Monkswood Gate and replaced those on South Parkway and The Rein. My parents ran the newsagents at the bottom of The Rein 1961-1967 and although they were still lock-ups, there were two back staircases and we lived in the maisonette not aboe our own shop but above the Coop who had joined together three shops on the parade. There was an off-licence at the side of our newsagents and at the other end Simpson's fish n chips. These shops have now been demolished but 'Black's shops' are still there. Whatever happened to Mr Black at the sweet shop?

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Name:
Michael Kirby

Comment:
When I was a kid, from about 1950 to 1963 I lived in the prefabs on Southwaite Lane. We lived in the two sided triangle shown in the bottom left of this photo. Our house was the third one in on the right, near the apex of the triangle. Other families who lived there, where from the bottom right, the Massey's, the Jolly's, us, Jones, Hannan's, Robinson's Wilson's. There were other names, but these were from memory families living there in the early 50s. There were lots of kids on the estate and we used to play on the 'Green' as we called the triangle. Games such as football, cricket, hot rice, British Bulldog, hide and seek, kick out ball or can, and lamppost. Behind the houses in Brooklands Avenue, there was a ditch with several large trees, oak, willow and possibly ash or beech where we used to climb and make swings. The photo doesn't show it, but Southwaite Lane had a fairly decent incline, where we used to ride down hill on bikes, trikes, bogies and old prams. I remember once, with other kids joining up about 7 or 8 bogies (home made gokart/trollies), then snaking down the hill like Spanky Macfarlane and the Little Rascals, who we all loved to watch on black and white tv. Further to the other comments about 'Blacks' shops, I remember the old shops, which may still be there, they were made into garages and were behind the present shops, on Kentmere Avenue. When the new shops were built sometime mid to late 50s?, the first shop was like a general store come off licence, called Lewis's. The people who owned it were I think jewish and the shop was often referred to as the 'Jewish Shop', they sold wonderful large breadcakes, which I supposed tasted like chiabata and went very well filled with fish and chips. They also sold a brand of bread called Zerma or Zermansky's, which cost one and nine a loaf (ordinary bread cost eight pence), the Zerma bread was probably some sort of dark rye with poppy seeds, spread thickly with butter it was delicious. Then there was Blacks newsagent, sweets and toys; possibly next was the coop, a butchers, a green grocers and then Leslie Crann the chemist and finally the hardware shop. One thing that is puzzling me, is that I always thought there was a roundabout at the junction of Kentmere Avenue and Southparkway, possibly it had been removed by 1962. The one at Southwaite Lane/Moresdale Lane Southparkway junction was definitely still there at the time of the photo; I remember being on the back of a Mod friend's Lambretta, coming along Moresdale Lane too fast, he was unable to make the bend, so he went straight across the roundabout and up Southwaite Lane. That probably enough for now, I off for a pint.

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Name:
Linda Murray (nee Sowry)

Comment:
My familly lived at the bottom of South Parkway which runs on the left hand side of the picture. I too remember the prefabs, & the field running all the way up the middle of South Parkway. We used to spend hours as children playing on the fields & 'doing duffs' on the beck all the way down to Monkey Bridge, quite often getting into trouble for not reporting back home often enough and being very grubby when we did get back. There was a roundabout at the junction with South Parkway & Kentmere Avenue but I think it may have been made when the flat roofed houses were built along the centre of South Parkway, completely spoiling the whole area.I remember the 'Jew's' shop too next door to Blacks post office, I remember buying a stale bread roll for a penny (the previous day's bread)when we were coming home from school (Beechwood)and thoroughly enjoying it. Our mum used to say we'd have gone mad if she'd have given us a stale bread bun for our tea.It's a long time ago but I remember it like yesterday, very happy days.

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Name:
Michael Kirby

Comment:
Just reading these entries again, and remembered an incident that I witnessed in the early fifties. I was stood, with my mother, outside the old 'Black's' shops, the ones that are now garages, watching a number 16 bus make its way up Kentmere Avenue. As we watched the bus, a back loader, stopped and one of the back wheels came off and rolled back down Kentmere Avenue towards South Parkway. I don't think it did any damage, fortunately. I also remember on Friday nights waiting with my brothers and sisters for our dad to get off the bus at the bottom of Southwaite Lane. Friday was payday, so he always came home laden with goodies, sweets, comics, cakes from Leslies in Leeds market, lovely fresh haddock and new bread and butter, from the market (for tea, I can still taste the thick bread and butter, with the haddock fried in a coating of flour, lovely!) As my dad worked mainly in foundries, he always had a few pints before he came home, usually in one or two of the following pubs: The Whip, Lloyds Arms, Scotsman, the Regent or the Market Tavern, and on one occasion he managed to have all of the shopping stolen while he went to the gents for a pee. I remember being upset about the loss of the food, but I was livid about losing the comics. Going back to the bus stop, in winter sometimes it was that smoggy, that the buses were led by torch carring men, at walking pace. The smog used to taste of coal. The bus stop was also a great place for picking up cig packets and matchboxes, which lots of kid used to save in those days. To relieve the boredom, while waiting, we would sometimes collect car registrations, writing them down in a notebook! But the best one was when somebody had the bright idea of collecting house numbers! We didn't need computers and Game Boys; like today's kids need; to keep us amused!

Date:
29-Sep-2008

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mike@bookcraft.co.uk

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Name:
Kenneth Turpin

Comment:
Hi Mike, that ditch, and the trees you used to swing on I lived on that street it was Brooklands Drive, Judith & John Hubberd, lived next door Kenneth Hudson John & Pat Clarkson, Jimmy/Cliferd/Ralf Burns I knew the family in the prefab top on Southwaite Lane he was a scotsman He used to run the CUB'S Mr Mcdonald I think and one lad who was an epileptic I think he lived in the first house we also played in FOX WOOD before the school was built

Date:
22-Dec-2008

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Name:
Michael Kirby

Comment:
Hi Kenneth Your name rings a bell, but I can't put a face to it. I was mates with John Clarkson and also John Hudson, who you don't mention (I'm sure he was John). I seem to remember 'going out' with Pat Clarkson breifly. I was also mates with a couple of other guys who lived on Brooklands Drive, Robert (Bob) Wright, who had a sister Pat and another lad called Colin ?. Round the corner – was it Foundry Mill Drive – I was mates with John Guy, John Brown and Kevin Walkin. We used to buy old motor bikes for £5.00 and ride them around by the Monkey Beck until they were wrecked. I remember we had a Douglas Dragonfly, a Norton Dominator, a police Velocette and an old moped, which was the only one we could get to run, until the engine caught fire. Happy days, but we should have stuck the bikes in a lock up, they would have been worth a fortune nowadays!

Date:
05-Jan-2009

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mike@bookcraft.co.uk

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Name:
Ronnie Shaw

Comment:
in answer to Steve Morrell's question on Mr Black. He and his wife retired and went to live in Oakwood.there son Alan took over for a while then his brother took over before he sold the business. then a few years ago Mr black died followed by his wife a couple of years later. I had privilege of arranging and conducting both of their funerals.

Date:
04-Dec-2009

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ronnie.shaw@talktalk.net

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Name:
Colin

Comment:
I used to live in Parkway Close in the seventies and I remember a nasty old man with a bald head that used to live on South Parkway (no. 21 I think). He used to work nights and if any kids decided to play near his house he would shout out of his window at them, or send his son (who used to bully the younger kids) to sort them out. I'd like to meet the bully today. Not very happy days.

Date:
02-Feb-2010

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Name:
Paul Murphy

Comment:
Continuing about Blacks shop: If I remember correctly, The "old shops" were never really shops. They always were garages. Mr Black rented one as a base for his newsagents business (all the delivery boys and girls went there to collect their papers), then started selling papers from there, then added other items ... which started a trend for using the garages as shops.

Date:
14-Jan-2011

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Name:
Michael Kirby

Comment:
Not sure how old Paul Murphy is, I'm coming up to 64. The garages were definetely shops in the early 50s. I have clear memories of the inside and outside of Blacks. I think Leslie Crann the chemist was there as well. There were probably about 4 shops. I also remember seeing from outside of Blacks the wheel come of the number 16 bus and roll back down towards Southparkay. I would guess they were built as garages, but used on a temporary basis while the main shopping block was being built.

Date:
21-Jan-2011

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Name:
Stuart Clapham

Comment:
I am about the same age as Micheal Kirby. I lived on Kentmere avenue near the junction with Brooklands lane from 1952 until 1966. I seem to remember that the original bus that went up Kentmere avenue was the 79 ( the 78 went to the top of South Parkway). Both terminated at the bus station. Does anyone else remember this ?

Date:
22-Jun-2011

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Name:
Ronald Shaw

Comment:
yes the garages were the old shops before the new shops were built but Mr Archie Black did not give out the papers from there when he moved to the new shop he sold the newspaper business to Mr Harry Longbottom who used to work from the garages. Also my father rented one of the garages for our car as soon as they were made into garages.

Date:
09-Oct-2014

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Name:
John B

Comment:
I remember Harry Longbottom. I used to deliver papers for him in the 1970's. The paper delivery boys (and girls) used to meet him outside Seacroft Park, opposite the Wilsons Arms pub, where he used to park his van to wait for the paper delivery. At that time I was paid about £1 for six days delivering the evening post, it took about an hour each day. Harry retired in the late 80's or early 90's I think. I read about his death in the Yorkshire Post a few years ago. Any ex paper boys, or girls, will remember him counting out the papers with great speed..... "a three a six a nine a twelve, a three a six a nine a twelve".

Date:
04-Dec-2014

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Name:
ALf

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One of the shop/garages was a post office in 1954, I remember walking there from Ramshead Place and along Kentmere Avenue every week with my mother.(A long walk for little legs and it was always cold and raining). It was the nearest P.O. from where she could collect the 'family allowance'. I remember the feeling of relief when the Ramshead shops were built. At last a local P.O. and sweet shop, I think it was called Moorbys' I Hated Seacroft, catholic and protestant kids always battling, it was a rough old place.

Date:
23-Feb-2017

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