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1969. Close up of part of an unknown street of terraced housing. Two women stand chatting outside no. 3; one is holding a small child while the other carries a shopping bag. Several other children are gathered around a playpen beneath the window. Image courtesy of Eric Jaquier; any help in identifying the location would be appreciated.

User Comments:

Name:
Brenda Scott nee Johnson

Comment:
This could be almost anywhere in Leeds, but as Eric Jacquier was known to favour the Armley/Burley/Headingley areas and took many of his photographs there in 1969, I'd suggest looking around the Burley area. The Lennox streets, the Roseberrys, any of those which ran off Milford Place, for instance. I'm sure there are many dozens of similar ones in the Armley area, too.

Date:
28-Apr-2015

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Name:
Graham A. Schofield

Comment:
Yet another tiny bit of 'Social History'. - - - At the time that this picture was taken there were more cars on the roads than there had been in the previous decade, but the Car Retail Trade was still burgeoning. It's hard to believe today, but car owners were still somewhat of a minority back then. No doubt there would have been several car owners in this street, but probably not many. The cars that were there, would most likely have not been used during the week, since many people usually still worked reasonably locally, back then, and they would have walked, or used public-transport to get to work. In many cases, the car was regarded as a luxury, to be used for trips out at weekends. This image tells us that there could not have been much traffic here, and that these children would have played out in the street in reasonable safety. Another thing to note here, is what the young woman with the cigarette in her left hand is carrying. That bag tells us that she would probably have been going to, or coming from the local shops, which would have been at the end of the street, or just a few streets away. Her shopping would have been most likely for items she needed for that, or the following day. There were Supermarkets about, by the date shown, but they were nowhere near as powerful with their influence as to our shopping habits, as they are today. This young lady, like many others at that time, would not have gone home carrying a plethora of carrier-bags on the end of each arm. Within the doorway where the two ladies are stood, there appears to be part of a series of letters or numbers or figures hanging down the right hand wall. Is there anyone out there who might possibly be able to discern them?

Date:
08-Jun-2015

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GrahamScho@AOL.com

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Name:
Valerie Daniels

Comment:
Could this be in the Marleys or Nosters in Beeston?

Date:
20-Jun-2015

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Name:
Brenda Scott nee Johnson

Comment:
They don't look like the Noster streets on the Leodis photographs, Valerie, and there aren't any of the Marleys on the site, so it's hard to tell. The lady with the shopping bag, talking to the doorway woman could, as Graham suggests, be nipping off to the shops. Equally, with her nylon pinny on underneath her jacket, she could be on her way to or from work. My mother and countless other women in the Burley area went to work in the textile mills ( Dixons, Prices, Pilgrims, etc. ) dressed just like this and carrying identical shopping bags. Most women would have removed their overall before going shopping, but worn it if they were on their way to work. When I lived in Burley, just off Kirkstall Road, in the 1950's and early '60's there was no-one with a car on the street. When I moved to the Wolseleys in 1963 still nobody had a car. By the time I'd left in 1976, ONE family in our street had a car. It didn't go anywhere, the lads of the household just used to have it on blocks and tinker with it. My parents and their neighbours didn't have cars, in fact I didn't know anyone at all who DID have one. As for those mysterious symbols on the right side of the doorpost, Graham, I'm baffled! I magnified the picture as far as it could go, which merely blurred the image. The really are most odd. Could they be horse brasses? Not an ornament you'd expect to see in a typical working-class home in Leeds, but it's my best guess.

Date:
24-Jun-2015

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Pamela

Comment:
During the 60's my young sister's first marital home was on Bayswater ...Crescent(?)in Harehills. My elder sister's house was on Clovelly...Terrace, I think, in the Beeston area. This picture reminds me of both - I was fascinated by the cellars.

Date:
03-Jul-2015

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Name:
Elaine Foy(Nee Holdsworth)

Comment:
Is it the angle of the photo or it looks to me that this street is on a slight gradiant? If so, then Im not sure its Marleys or Nosters. My nanna lived in Marley View & other grandparents in Noster Hill and I don't recall any of the streets being on a gradiant.

Date:
12-Jul-2015

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elainefoy@talktalk.net

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Name:
Elaine Foy(Nee Holdsworth)

Comment:
Is it the angle of the photo or it looks to me that this street is on a slight gradiant? If so, then Im not sure its Marleys or Nosters. My nanna lived in Marley View & other grandparents in Noster Hill and I don't recall any of the streets being on a gradiant.

Date:
12-Jul-2015

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Name:
Graham A. Schofield

Comment:
Can You Help? - - - 201526_175373 - - -Elaine Foy has raised a good point in querying as to there being a gradient or not. Yes, there is one! Take a look at the cellar hatchways on both houses. The one on the left has six courses of bricks up to the short lintel, whereas the one on the right has only five; thus indicating a slope. By the same token, further evidence can be gleaned by counting the courses of bricks under each of the scullery window-sills; thirteen as opposed to twelve.

Date:
16-Jul-2015

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GrahamScho@AOL.com

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Name:
Brenda Scott nee Johnson

Comment:
Could this perhaps be one of the Allertons in Burley, which were built on a bit of a slope from Kirkstall Road?

Date:
23-Dec-2015

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Name:
Leodis Office

Comment:
We have had a suggestion that this may be the one of the Greenhows or Cardigans off Kirkstall Road in Burley, since demolished. Does anyone else agree that this is possible?

Date:
13-Jul-2016

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Name:
Brenda Scott nee Johnson

Comment:
Hello Leodis Office! Yes, I think it could possibly be one of the Greenhows...but there are no photographs on the site to compare it with, unfortunately, as far as I can see. Equally it could be one of the Cardigans.....it certainly looks like the Burley area. Hopefully someone will be able to verify this.

Date:
15-Jul-2016

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